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Re: [tor-talk] What relay does really help the TOR project?



On 01/16/2015 02:00 PM, Tom van der Woerdt wrote:
> Hi Josef,
> 
> Exit nodes provide most value to the network, as they will also be able
> to handle entry and middle traffic.
> 
> As for porn: maybe the wiki page on porn legality [1] explains it. Also
> note that this kind of traffic helps to mask other kinds of Tor traffic,
> essentially helping the network (not to mention the popularity gain).
> Oh, and don't forget that the "normal" internet also has quite a high
> share of this kind of traffic.

The Internet Is For Porn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs

> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region
> 
> 
> Josef 'veloc1ty' Stautner schreef op 16/01/15 om 21:40:
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I first heard from TOR after the leaks of snowden and started to read a
>> lot about TOR but never used it - and I still don't use it (I just don't
>> have the need for it).
>> Before christmas I started a tor relay on my dedicated server. To be
>> clear: Just a normal middle relay with 100 MBit/s advertised and 200
>> MBit/s burst. While the holidays more and more traffic was going over
>> the network card.
>>
>> After a week I decided to increase the speed to 200 MBit/s advertised
>> bandwidth.
>> A day later I took the reduced exit rules and kicked out some more
>> ports. So now I'm running an exit relay.
>>
>> The past days I made some short tcpdump traces to find out what people
>> use TOR for. Well, it's kind of sad. A short analyse of the hostnames
>> gave me the result: 80% Porn, 10% site crawling, 5% Wordpress comment
>> spam and 5% "human" traffic.
>> I don't get why people use TOR for watching porn.
>>
>> Now I dived deeper into the TOR architecture. I read that now that I'm
>> running an exit relay I'm not able to be a normal middle relay (please
>> tell me if I'm wrong).
>>
>> Since I'm not willing to help people with my exit relay just to watch
>> anonymous porn on the web, I would rather help the people inside the
>> network stay anonymous and speedup the network itself - thus just
>> running a normal relay. I'm aware that the porn traffic will still be
>> running through the relay but also the "better"/wanted relay-to-relay
>> traffic.
>>
>> Long story short: What type of relay helps the TOR project more?
>> Exit-Relay or Middle-relay? Is it really the "job" from TOR to provide
>> an exit to the normal internet ressources or should the focus be on
>> hidden services?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your comments/suggestions,
>>
>> Josef
>>
>> P.S.: I'm posting this to the normal tor-talk Mailinglist because I want
>> to catch the opinion from the community and don't have a probleme with
>> the relay software itself.
>>
>>
>>
> 
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