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Re: [tor-talk] Tor -> VPN Clarification



On 01/30/2015 03:30 AM, Bill Berry wrote:
> This image explains VPN + tor quite well;
> 
> https://vigilantcanuck.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/vpn-tor.png
> 
> IMO this setup is a pretty sensible idea given the recent
> de-anonymisation attacks (e.g. CMU). If your Tor connection gets
> comprimised, all the Feds have (hopefully) is your VPN IP.

Yes, that's a good point.

Better yet is VPN1 -> VPN2 -> VPN3 -> Tor or VPN1 -> JonDonym -> VPN2 ->
Tor. Belt _and_ suspenders :)

> The best way to set this up is VPN at a router level (e.g.
> http://wiki.hidemyass.com/OpenWRT_OpenVPN_Setup), then run Tails or Tor
> browser on your laptop.
> 
> 
> On 30/01/15 10:15, Cyrus wrote:
>> Squeak:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Relative newbie here, and I was wondering if someone could help me with
>>> something please. I keep seeing people describing connections to the Tor
>>> and is VPN connections in the following two ways:
>>>
>>> Tor -> VPN
>>> VPN -> Tor
>>>
>>> So if I fire up Tunnelblick, connect to my VPN provider and then open
>>> TBB which of the above does this describe?  And also, is there a
>>> recommended way of connecting these two technologies?
>> You connect to Tor through the VPN in this case.
>>
>> PC <=> Internet <=> VPN server <=> Internet <=> Tor Network <=> Internet
>>
>>> Another thing I've noticed is in the Tunnelblick client that there is an
>>> option to connect to a Socks5 proxy, this suggests to me that I can send
>>> the VPN connection through the Tor network.  But I am confused as to why
>>> one would want to do this, and what the benefits/disadvantages might be?
>> If you don't want a log of your actual IP, doing this would be a
>> benefit. Though if they already have logged where you are once as a
>> customer, the point of this is moot. If you had a different account, you
>> could then use the VPN anonymously.
>>> Really appreciate any help you guys could give me!
>>>
>>> Squeak
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
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