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Re: [tor-talk] Are webmail providers biased against Tor?
On 2015-03-16 11:33, Sukhbir Singh wrote:
Mike Hearn from Google addressed this issue on the tor-talk mailing list
in October 2012, where he said this:
"Access to Google accounts via Tor (or any anonymizing proxy service) is
not allowed unless you have established a track record of using those
The impression seems to be that Tor is ipso facto suspicious to Gmail
irrespective of the exit node's location, whereas "abnormal" IPs (e.g.
those from Nepal) are only suspicious if they originate from outside
the usual geographical location of the user.
I can verify Hearn's (Google's) statement from my own experience at
least. I am a long time user of the privateinternetaccess VPN. If I log
into gmail from Germany, London, US East or US West or from home in New
Zealand, I no longer get asked for validation when using an anonymous
proxy. However, when I logged in via the new riseup.net VPN (Seattle)
recently, or whenever I use an unfamiliar PIA proxy, I have been asked
So google is keeping track of which regions (IP ranges?) I'm coming
from, and adjusting my profile. It took google several months to stop
asking me if I wanted to change my default search engine country, but
their algorithm did eventually back off.
I think 'track record' is the relevant point. Everywhere is suspicious
until you have a track record of accessing google from there. Tor by
design is meant to prevent any track record from developing.
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