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Re: [tor-talk] The Tor-BSD Diversity Project



I am not particularly enlightened but I was under the impression that
people do not use BSD for a reason.

It's 2015 and FreeBSD is still lacking basic security mechanisms such as
ASLR. It also seems to me that the community's ideological licencing
crusade is holding the entire project back. They condemn anything GPL and
will substitute inferior tools instead, I.e. ksh instead of bash, virtual
box instead of xen etc. As a project they seem to spend most of their time
rewriting GPL projects just to slap a BSD licence on it (bhyve or whatever
they call it for example) which doesn't really help anyone. It's like
Canonical dicking around with Unity and Mir. Complete waste of everyone's
time.

OpenBSD is also a highly emotionally charged community. They completely
turn their backs on things like virtualization and mandatory access
controls. They spend all their time auditing the base system but as soon as
you install a buggy or untrusted application then you're on your own. I
don't find this approach very helpful in the real world.

Would anyone who knows more care to address these points and correct me
where I may be wrong?

I like the idea of diversifying the Tor infrastructure, defence in depth
and all that but I feel like it would be nice to also have some clear
arguments for why another OS should be adopted - not just it exists and
it's not Linux.

> an idea: maybe talk to forums.freebsd.org / www.freebsdforums.org
> operators about making their sites available also to tor users as well?

This would be immensely helpful and appreciated. There is no reason to
block even read only access to the forums.
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