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Re: [tor-talk] The Tor-BSD Diversity Project



If you ask me he wrote some valid points.

~Josef

Am 30.04.2015 um 15:15 schrieb Nathaniel Goodman:
> On April 30, 2015 1:27:35 PM GMT+01:00, Apple Apple <djjdjdjdjdjdjd32@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am not particularly enlightened but I was under the impression that
>> people do not use BSD for a reason.
>>
>> It's 2015 and FreeBSD is still lacking basic security mechanisms such
>> as
>> ASLR. It also seems to me that the community's ideological licencing
>> crusade is holding the entire project back. They condemn anything GPL
>> and
>> will substitute inferior tools instead, I.e. ksh instead of bash,
>> virtual
>> box instead of xen etc. As a project they seem to spend most of their
>> time
>> rewriting GPL projects just to slap a BSD licence on it (bhyve or
>> whatever
>> they call it for example) which doesn't really help anyone. It's like
>> Canonical dicking around with Unity and Mir. Complete waste of
>> everyone's
>> time.
>>
>> OpenBSD is also a highly emotionally charged community. They completely
>> turn their backs on things like virtualization and mandatory access
>> controls. They spend all their time auditing the base system but as
>> soon as
>> you install a buggy or untrusted application then you're on your own. I
>> don't find this approach very helpful in the real world.
>>
>> Would anyone who knows more care to address these points and correct me
>> where I may be wrong?
>>
>> I like the idea of diversifying the Tor infrastructure, defence in
>> depth
>> and all that but I feel like it would be nice to also have some clear
>> arguments for why another OS should be adopted - not just it exists and
>> it's not Linux.
>>
>>> an idea: maybe talk to forums.freebsd.org / www.freebsdforums.org
>>> operators about making their sites available also to tor users as
>> well?
>>
>> This would be immensely helpful and appreciated. There is no reason to
>> block even read only access to the forums.
> Here be trolls.


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