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Re: [tor-talk] What's better than Tor for criminals?



On 06/06/2015 02:20 PM, Charlie Belmer wrote:
> I always took it to mean using malware infected hosts, rootkits, and C&C
> servers to do the dirty work, which not only makes you hard to trace, but
> can also point investigations at the infected host.

Or Hola Premium ;)

> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Max Bond <max.o.bond@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Organized criminals will probably achieve better operational security by
>> conducting themselves in the real world as much as possible. This is not an
>> option available to a lone dissident in an oppressed country.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:50 AM, <torlove@ruggedinbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello...
>>>
>>> I'm an avid tor lover and user.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to understand a statement I've heard a number of people on the
>>> Tor team and in the Tor community repeat over the years and was wondering
>>> if it could be explained.
>>>
>>> The statement: Paraphrasing, it's been said several times, by Roger, etc,
>>> that...
>>>
>>> "Criminals have much better options available to them than Tor for strong
>>> internet anonymity."
>>>
>>> I'm trying to understand what these options are and why don't we
>>> non-criminal tech savvy people have some of these better options?
>>>
>>> Is this just talking about the option of using encrypted botnets, or are
>>> there other additional options that criminals use?
>>>
>>> What are these criminal anonymity methods that are stronger than Tor?
>>>
>>> Thanks all!
>>>
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