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Re: [tor-talk] evidence that Tor isn't "amoral"?



On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:13:46 -0700
Apple Apple <djjdjdjdjdjdjd32@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 14 Jul 2015 22:31, "Juan" <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
> >         You just keep vomiting the same corrupt nonsense.
> >
> >         Oh yeah, you are such galant defenders...of americunt
> >         fascism...which you try to pass as 'fighting oppressive
> >         regimes'. Sick.
> 
> I'm sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say. The Tor
> project does not have any political motivations or affiliations.


	The tor network is a project of the US military. It's a
	propaganda tool, among other things <---- the statements look
	clear enough to me.


	"does not have any political motivations" 

	Even at face value, your remark is wrong.  The tor project's
	alleged goals are to promote free speech, counter censorship,
	bla bla. Those are political motivations (of course, they are 
	different from the actual political motivations mentioned above)

	


> You
> are free to use the Tor network to pursue any goal and subvert any
> government you wish, including the United States.

	Sure. (Sorry, I'm literally laughing out loud...)



> 
> For example, the infamous silk road marketplace provided citizens a
> means of trading illigal drugs and firearms.

	Oh. So some people tried to 'subvert' the authority of the
	americunt government - used tor - and where are they now,
	exactly? I think they are living in a place called 'jail'. 



> If you search through
> publicly listed onion domains you will find plenty of conspiratorial
> and anarchist material on explosives, poison, torture and guerilla
> warfare mixed with copious amounts of antiamerican/antisemitic
> propaganda.

	Just like in the ordinary web. By the way, what qualifies as
	'antiamerican' propaganda in your opinion? 



> 
> For me, supporting Tor is not about supporting *what* information
> people share, it's about supporting the *principle* that people can
> share whatever information they want.

	Oh, that's a good principle. I also support it. That's why I
	(correctly) see the americunt government, its supporters, and
	its projects (like tor) for the threat they really are. 



> 
> I encourage you to not dwell on our differences of opinion but focus
> on our mutual desire for anonymous, uncensored access to information,
> whatever it might be.

	Good. So stop supporting the US military, government, and its
	projects. 



	





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