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> Subject: tor-talk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19
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> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:50:31 +0000
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>    1. Re: (no subject) (Thomas White)
>    2. Re: Latest update fails to carry NoScript whitelist	forward.
>       (Georg Koppen)
>    3. Re: (no subject) (Apple Apple)
>    4. Why is my message reject at
>       tor-announce-owner@lists.torproject.org ? (Qaz)
>    5. Re: Why is my message reject at
>       tor-announce-owner@lists.torproject.org ? (Seth David Schoen)
>    6. Re: (no subject) (Ryan Carboni)
>    7. Re: Problem with where hidden_services able to be
>       placed/permissions. (MaQ)
>    8. Re: (no subject) (syndikal@riseup.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:16:04 +0100
> From: Thomas White <thomaswhite@riseup.net>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)
> Message-ID: <55CB4714.80601@riseup.net>
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> $20 a month for a dedicated IP is a ripoff. My point here is actually
> not about the cost of multicore being added as each user can rate
> limit it to curb additional expense, but the cost of actually getting
> the thing coded and implemented.
> 
> For relays, being able to make more use of available bandwidth would
> vastly increase the network speed, furthermore make home clients see
> an improvement in their daily Tor usage. It also benefits hidden
> service people as they can then run their Tor processes on more than
> one core and thus handle higher volumes of traffic.
> 
> As a disclaimer, I am of course asking since my company is going live
> in the next few months. But of course, that is also where my funding
> proposal is coming from.
> 
> On 12/08/2015 05:08, Ryan Carboni wrote:
> >> Does anyone in Tor want to name a price to get this task done?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The price of a public dedicated ip address is at worst, $20 a 
> > month.
> > 
> > Two tor nodes max per IP address, so roughly $20*6000 relays / 2 =
> >  $60,000 per year. That is perhaps the only price of no multicore 
> > support. Although, many Tor nodes are hosted using dynamic IPs, so 
> > perhaps the cost is closer to $1,000 per year. In any case, I'm
> > not sure how many sequential operations there are.
> > 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:51:16 +0000
> From: Georg Koppen <gk@torproject.org>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Latest update fails to carry NoScript
> 	whitelist	forward.
> Message-ID: <55CB4F54.5070205@torproject.org>
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> pcrable:
> > Today I updated my Tor installations on GNU/Linux and Windoze 8.1.  In
> > both cases, the update program carried forward my bookmarks, but did not
> > transfer the list of URL's in NoScript's whitelist.  It just took a
> > moment to find an old white list and fix things.
> > 
> > This is hardly the bug of the week.  I just mention this because
> > beginning two updates ago, both bookmarks and whitelist URL's were
> > carried forward.  Before then I had to export them to files, update Tor,
> > and then import them.  I got lulled into complacency, I guess, and
> > stopped doing that.
> 
> This is probably bug 16730: NoScript updated the whitelist sometimes
> which is pretty dangerous in our context and we don't allow that anymore.
> 
> Georg
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:13:31 -0700
> From: Apple Apple <djjdjdjdjdjdjd32@gmail.com>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)
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> >And yeah, maybe
> because other priorities, such as the need to work on other features and
> keep
> the code reasonably simple still outweigh the performance benefit from
> proper
> multi-threading.
> 
> Don't forget about security.
> 
> Is it worth having Tor run a little faster at the expense of complex multi
> threaded code with more potential security vulnerabilities?
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:31:57 +0300
> From: Qaz <qazxswedc@openmailbox.org>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: [tor-talk] Why is my message reject at
> 	tor-announce-owner@lists.torproject.org ?
> Message-ID: <55CB830D.6090309@openmailbox.org>
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> Hi there,
> 
> Yeah the title pretty much says it. How do I go about this?
> 
> Thank you!
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:46:04 -0700
> From: Seth David Schoen <schoen@eff.org>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Why is my message reject at
> 	tor-announce-owner@lists.torproject.org ?
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> Qaz writes:
> 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > Yeah the title pretty much says it. How do I go about this?
> 
> tor-announce isn't a discussion list and the public isn't allowed to
> send messages to it.  The place where you can have public discussions
> is tor-talk -- this list right here.
> 
> -- 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:21:07 -0700
> From: Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)
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> Last year's summer of code had someone working on Tor multicore.
> 
> This year's summer of privacy has Donncha O'Cearbhaill working on load
> balancing for hidden services.
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:18:11 +0000
> From: MaQ <shark@canaglie.org>
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Problem with where hidden_services able to be
> 	placed/permissions.
> Message-ID: <55CBAA03.8090008@canaglie.org>
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> Yes, running Tor 0.2.6.10.'Do you see there files like
> cached-microdesc-consensus, lock, state, etc.?' Files do exist in
> /var/lib/tor. The pertinent torrc:
> 
> 'HiddenServiceDir /var/lib/tor/hidden_service/
> HiddenServicePort 80 127.0.0.1:80'
> 
> The '/var/lib/tor' by default is limited to root. I did some tests
> deleting 'hidden_service' to regenerate new .onion addresses. All fine.
> 
> The normal 'user' of system can't access '/var/lib/tor'. I changed
> permissions of folder. Tor wouldn't generate new hidden_services files
> or connect. I created a new folder 'hidden_service' in user's
> '/home/user/Documents' and changed torrc to
> '/home/user/Documents/hidden_service'. Tor wouldn't generate new
> hidden_services files or connect.
> 
> Changed everything back, back to normal... What I'm trying to do is have
> a fresh OS, that when a new user starts for first time, a unique .onion
> address is generated for them and it is easily displayed on a start
> page, without them having to fish around in files or having to use
> editor, terminal, etc.
> 
> (On another note, the tor lists has been the quickest response/most
> helpful for a novice, that I've encountered. Thank you all.)
> 
> ----------
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you installed from deb.torproject.org I assume you are using Tor
> 0.2.6.10, correct? (run # tor --version to check this).
> 
> Please explain once again what you did, I don't exactly understand.
> Have you restored a hidden service for which you had backups of
> private_key and hostname files? Or did you leave Tor to create a new
> hidden service? What do you mean by 'set-up a directory in user's
> Documents folder'?
> 
> If you have installed via apt, your datadirectory should be
> /var/lib/tor, unless you didn't change it by modifying torrc. Do you
> see there files like cached-microdesc-consensus, lock, state, etc.?
> Also, the username who should run Tor on your system is debian-tor.
> 
> Please provide more details and torrc entries.
> 
> On 8/10/2015 11:49 PM, MaQ wrote:
> > I tried a couple of things.
> >
> > Gave complete permissions to user at
> > /var/lib/tor/hidden_services/hostname recursively AND
> >
> > set-up a directory in user's Documents folder.
> >
> > In both instances Tor would not make a connection. Had to revert
> > all settings back to only allowing files to be placed with root
> > restrictions in /var/lib/tor/ (torrc was correctly set to best of
> > knowledge in both instances).
> >
> > I'm using Debian, Tor was installed from apt repositories using
> > instructions from torproject.org, with adding line to sources.list
> > and keyring, etc.
> >
> > Need user to have access to hostname file.
> >
> > Did read something about differences in privileges depending if
> > using apt or downloading tarball?
> >
> > What is solution?
> 
> tor-talk-request@lists.torproject.org:
> > Re: [tor-talk] Problem with where hidden_services able to be
> > 	placed/permissions.
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:50:26 -0700
> From: syndikal@riseup.net
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)
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> > On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 21:08:45 -0700
> > $20 today gets you not just a public IP address, but a whole 100 Mbit
> > unmetered VM or a dedicated server to go with it, and not even just one,
> > but
> > easily two or three.
> 
> i'd be very interested in purchasing these if you were to share the
> offers! finding hosts happy to allow exit nodes is tricky but it seems
> like you've got it down.
> 
> syndikal
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