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Re: [tor-talk] company devised process to disable Intel Management Engine



Hi tor community, recently I made an attempt to access the web via tor. The following message appeared...hardware expire/ malfunction, what does that mean?
Thanks much.

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> On Dec 11, 2017, at 10:48 AM, InterN0T <intern0t AT protonmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting, do you have a proof of concept supporting that desktop PCs without remote administration such as AMT, can still be reached remotely via Intel ME?
> 
> Besides Intel ME there is also the AMD version, which people seem to forget about or even discuss.
> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] company devised process to disable Intel Management Engine
>> Local Time: December 11, 2017 8:50 AM
>> UTC Time: December 11, 2017 7:50 AM
>> From: ktr-theonionrouter AT dea.spamcon.org
>> To: tor-talk AT lists.torproject.org
>> 
>>> On 12/10/2017 7:01 PM, InterN0T wrote:
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind that just because you have a laptop that uses an Intel processor, doesn't necessarily mean that you also have Intel ME enabled by default. I don't think my laptops support this feature unless I've missed something that someone can enlighten me about.
>> 
>> No, today it's in virtually all Intel processors used in desktops and
>> laptops. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine .
>> Most consumer PCs don't have ME firmware that supports remote management
>> features such as AMT. But even consumer PCs still have running ME
>> firmware which still does various stuff and has almost total access and
>> control of your PC. The ME firmware has an API that can be called from
>> Windows (I don't know about Linux, but I'd be really surprised) to have
>> the ME do things like decryption.
>> 
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