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Re: DRAFT version of Federal "Justice" Shutdown Project



On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 5:40:34 PM PDT, juan <juan.g71 AT gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:41:41 -0400
Marina Brown <catskillmarina AT gmail.com> wrote:


> Sorry - i thought that was you were saying.
   
    It is quite clear what Jim was saying. It's kinda dumb to quote
    him again, but here it goes. Of course one can look at the 1
    day old whole message which is a typical anti-immigration
    right-wing rant.



    "When I suggest that illegal re-entry is a 'victimless crime',
    that does not mean that there are not other crimes which
    illegal re-entry employs (such as people-smuggling) and
    further, crimes that it enables:  Any crime subsequently
    committed by a person who is illegally present in America.
     Kate Steinle's case in San Francisco is an excellent example
    of this.   These crimes are ENABLED because the illegal alien
    is in America.  If he is out of America, he might still commit
    crimes, but they would be crimes that some other government
    would have to deal with. 

    Also, keep in mind that the U.S. government doesn't need to
    actually convict these people of some crime, in order to expel
    them.  Put simply, if the government had actually been
    enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
    easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
    I suspect to be, 20 million.  (the figures bandied commonly
    about, 11-12 million are nonsense.)

    So, if ICE actually did its job, much of the crime associated
    with illegal aliens simply wouldn't occur. "





    * 'illegal' re-entry 'enables' crimes.
    * person who is 'illegally' present in America
    * crimes are ENABLED because the 'illegal' alien is in
      America
    * government doesn't need to convict...people...in order to
      expel them. 

    "if the government had actually been
    enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might
    easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what
    I suspect to be, 20 million"

    that ^^^^^ sounds like a clear 'complaint' doesnt it. Notice
    also the unfounded assertion, typical of propaganda, about the
    numbers, inflated to 20 millions.

    And the punch line, if "ICE actually did its job" those dirty
    foreign 'criminals' wouldn't commit the 'crimes' they allegedly
    commit in AMERIKKKA.

[end of quote]

I suppose I should have been anal, and said, "if ICE actually did the job it claims to be its own..."

                        Jim Bell