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Re: Is email really that hard?



On 22 February 2017 17:02:50 GMT+00:00, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka AT gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, at 5:51 AM, oshwm <oshwm AT openmailbox.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl <eugen AT leitl.org>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Who is the list owner these days? If we do not get moderation going
>I'm
>> >out of here.
>>
>> Bye then :)
>
>
>Eugen,
>
>oshwm wasn't being offensive or aggressive.  He/she  (I don't know

No, i was being an arsehole :)

>whether is a girl or a boy, never needed to ask it)  was just

Is that important to you?

>informing you  - in a bit ironic way, I admit -  that CP is a list
>with absolutely NO moderation.
>

No, Eugen threatened to leave the list if we didn't do as they wanted - as if they were doing us a great favour by blessing us with their 'presence'.
Eugen's participation is for their own benefit, any benefit we get is a side effect and can be gained from multiple sources.

This is supposed to be Cypherpunks, not cypher-rather-nice-gentle-ppl and as such the noise is as important as the signal (imho of course).

The calls for moderation have made me wonder if they are attempts by some 3rd party (grubbyments?) to take control of something they haven't been able to defeat and to subdue it to the point that participants walk away from something that no longer stands for anything worthwhile.

Although the irony of my response did give me cause to smile.

>I don't know whether Riad is still the list owner and Greg is only
>managing it, or whether Greg also became the new list owner  (never
>needed to ask it too, haha),  but both are good persons, kind and
>very, very, very patient.  I really appreciate a lot both, and hope
>nobody annoys them.  :)
>
>Take care, be patient and create filters, please.
>
>c.