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Re: The Power Of Irradiating Ourselves







From: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>
>Free power of course...
>https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/07/14/2049246/cleanspace-co-sensor-runs-on-freevolt-rf-harvesting

>A few years ago, a Kickstarter was set up to develop a locator tag
>powered by free radio frequency (RF) energy harvested from the
>environment. This was called a scam here on Slashdot and was shut down
>before it was funded on Kickstarter. However, it now appears that the
>concept is not as far-fetched as some predicted. A UK company
>CleanSpace has developed a carbon monoxide (CO) sensor which is
>powered by free RF. A review of the product has been posted on
>YouTube. It uses Freevolt technology to keep a battery charged and the
>CO sensor running. Since they have several thousand of these devices
>collecting data, they do appear to work and it seems to be in the 'not
>a scam' department.


I don't think there's necessarily a contradiction here.  While there do exist CO sensors which need
to keep the detector heated to 400 degrees C, and therefore benefit from being connected to
the AC supply, "electrochemical cells" which have extremely low power consumption are now
available. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_detector  The device needs merely to
 'wake up' occasionally, maybe every minute or so, interrogate the voltage on the electrochemical
cell, and sound the alarm if the limit value is exceeded.

The main concern is ensuring that the detector has enough power at the time it is necessary
to alarm to sound that alarm.  The ongoing (non-alarm) power consumption is probably much less than the
 self-discharge rate of a battery.   Modern alkaline-cells have a shelf-life of in excess of 5 years, and
perhaps as much as 10 years, although Wikipedia doesn't state this specifically.

In contrast, a tracking device must actively emit some sort of signal to alert some remote system to
its current location, which takes power.  It must also somehow know where it is:  GPS receivers use
 much less power than they once did, but even that is far greater than that which a tiny battery could
be expected to provide.  

And the amount of power available from "free RF" is obviously quite variable:  If you're 0.5 kilometer
away from a 50Kw television transmitter, that's a lot of signal strength.  Compare that with out in
the boonies, 1 km away from a cell-phone tower is not a lot.  It would make more sense to design
a CO detector with solar cells on the bottom, and have people mount it on an outside window, with 
a rechargeable battery to store enough to get through the night.

                     Jim Bell