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Re: the most annoying thing about Juan

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 9:43 AM Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:

Personally, from having talked to people who knew him that I've known for years, I am inclined to believe that Appelbaum did at least most of what he's accused of. But I blame the community for tolerating it and saying nothing at least as much as I blame him. He could not have existed without the legions of fanboys who, when they saw him trying to force a kiss on a woman,

Source please. No source and it didn't happen. Supply a source and it still might not have happened.

I'm not interested in trying to convince you or anyone else that it happened. I am telling you why *I* am convinced. You can decide I'm stupid if you like, just like I'll decide you're motivated by other reasons besides just thinking there's a government/SJW conspiracy.

What I'm seeing here is hearsay.

Yep. Innocent until proven guilty only applies in court. For all others, it's preponderance of evidence. You certainly don't seem to require any evidence to believe his accusers are liars.

Lots of that going around... Ask Juan. It's one of his his specialties.

As I've said before, a large fraction of what we do is subjective and very personal. And subject to a lot of passion. Nothing wrong with that.