On 07/17/2016 11:38 AM, John Newman wrote:
It's just teh "MAN'S" way of saying "hi... We're gonna fuck over all your acquaintances."do you really think Applebaum is of the same level of importance to the things you mention - privacy / human rights / surveillance state, etc, as Julian Assange or Ed Snowden?
Remember what Chris Dorner did to the LAPD that scared the living shit out of them? He went after the cops' family and friends. It's classic counterinsurgency tactic he learned from the kind of people who want to kill Snowden and Assange.
It's NOT limited to high profile people either. I knew a woman a junkie hooker, who was murdered so the feds could spook her memorial service to see if her weatherman fugitive boyfriend would turn up.
On Jul 16, 2016, at 7:50 AM, grarpamp <email@example.com> wrote: On 7/15/16, John Newman <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:Wtf is or was so important about Appelbaum that would lead to any kind of massive conspiratorial smear campaign? Who gains from taking him down?On both... Are you fucking kidding me? Even before Snowden censored himself and Assange got locked down... He's one of the outspoken few that was still out traveling around the world bringing knowledge of Tor / privacy / human rights / surveillance etc the whole scope... with zero fear and a solid compelling presentation based on personal conviction and experience. Others at Tor mostly stayed to the conference rooms, he was transcending personal rooms even before joining Tor... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaW1ge-tTVo Here he is talking on the subject with a roomful of Muslims in Quwait... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTcpVBqy9DcRight on. I obviously didn’t keep abreast of all the important Applebaum-works (I don’t watch a whole lot of youtube videos, I prefer reading). I run a little tor relay, lurk on a couple of tor lists, am constantly hacking my fork of roundcube to work better with GPG, etc… but basically I've always had more of an interest in the technical details. So apparently I missed some important shit. As I already said to Zen - thanks for filling me in :P P.S. All sarcasm/snide bullshit aside - do you really think Applebaum is of the same level of importance to the things you mention - privacy / human rights / surveillance state, etc, as Julian Assange or Ed Snowden? Snowden may have clammed up but he got a lot of good shit out there. Likewise they have tried to clam Assange up but he keeps on pumping shit out. — john
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