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Re: [jfw] Re: Packages - Keep or Dump?
On 5/26/2015 21:34, Andrew Eddie wrote:
Just thinking out loud, if the Joomla 4 Team was made up of a
framework team, an application team (the actual CMS part with
extensions), a UI/UX team, a documentation team and a quality &
testing team, I think we'd be in a really good place to move forward.
It would be interesting to hear if other people thought about that
kind of concept. Regards, Andrew Eddie
I know i'm not the best coder but I'd like to throw my observations out
first, I like this idea the best. Makes perfect sense. The application
team can decide what it needs, tell the framework and ui folks that info
so they can work their respective magic, the doc team can then create
SOLID USABLE information ( not just here's a class and its children )
and the q/a can build the tests. Makes perfect sense and is the way big
business does things afaik.
I'd like to throw out one caution though. I hear some core dev's
complain the code in the cms is horribly outdated. well, I'm not sure
how that can be but ok. What I do see is the constant changes of
names. For example we have JDocument and JHtml. Some say using one is
better then the other but yet they both do pretty much the same thing.
Soon we'll have JLayout which will change things yet again. Let's
please think ahead and pick one class family name and stick with it.
deprecate everything else!!
If things need to be non b/c in 4.0 so that the cms and other apps can
mature then do so! Don't "tweak" other libraries to fit joomla, if
thats needed then make our own or tweak joomla to fit theirs so that we
can keep the underlying libraries up to date and as bug free as
possible. Bootstrap is a great example of what should be fairly easy to
update and yet has stagnated to the point where we need to seriously
look @ skipping BS 3.x and jumping to 4 which is due out in the near future.
From what i've seen and read there were few enough changes between 2
and 3 that we could've done the rewrite already if it had been more
Lastly we've got an ancient menu system. a dropdown type Horizontal
menu and solid ( offcanvas?) mobile menu should have made its way into
core years ago. Lets fix this in 4.
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